The Pahalgam attack has sparked a mix of nationalistic and emotional responses across social media, highlighting both support for India's stance and criticism of its security measures. Many commenters demand concrete actions against Pakistan, stemming from longstanding grievances and the disputed Kashmir region. There are calls for unity against terrorism but also for diplomatic solutions to avoid further escalation. Economic exploitation by airlines and media narratives have also been criticized. The sentiment is marred by skepticism towards the government's ability to effectively handle national security, with some urging accountability and more strategic foresight.

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As I wait for my friend's cremation ceremony tomorrow, there's no other thought that crosses my mind than to imagine what he must have felt at that moment. The last thing he saw before it all happened. He had so much potential and so much to live for, taken away from us, so cruelly. I keep thinking of the what ifs - what if he had just not planned to visit Kashmir, what if he had gone a day earlier or planned for later..what if he had gone an hour before or planned for later. Somehow, it seems like his fate led him there and that's the only thing that helps me make a little sense of what has happened. I have become numb to everything being shown on media and elsewhere - the truth of the hour is - when you lose someone to tragedies like this, nothing matters. We always talk about "justice" and "revenge", but those don't bring the person back. I still cannot believe that he is no more, this has been a nightmare and a very cruel one at that. There's no place in rotten hell for people who did this to him. I'm not one to post on reddit often, but I wanted to do so because I don't want my friend to become another statistic that becomes forgotton as time passes. I know we quickly become desensetized to things like this, but we need to remember that the victims were real people who mattered and deserved to live, and did nothing wrong by being there. His life mattered, and we will never be able to fill the void that he has left behind. I'm not sure on when he will receive justice, but I do hope that he finds the peace he went to look for.

dri_dri_

How in the world is there 0 security? I mean the airport has more security than a freaking conflict zone.

thegamer720x

I’m still in Kashmir and our original plan was to go to Pahalgam tomorrow. We visited Sonmarg on Monday and Gulmarg yesterday. There were army personnel stationed every 5 minutes along the road in Sonmarg when we rode in car to the Thajiwas glacier base point. But once we reached the spot where local people crowd to haggle with tourists, there were no army or police in sight any further. Gulmarg had very few army in sight along the way though we got to see CRPF convoy vans frequently but again none at the tourist point or further along the ride in ATV. I guess the same would have been the case with Baisaran as well. I feel at least a couple of police or army should have been there at a place where over 3000 tourists are present at a time. That’s a major security lapse.

JobGroundbreaking752

Thank you for sharing the on-ground reality. Much needed in this time

Complex_Feedback_748

This is heartbreaking. I was in Kashmir last year around Independence Day, and I remember feeling constantly on edge. Even though the locals were kind and incredibly helpful, I couldn’t shake off the fear. Just two days before one of our outings, we found out there had been a militant shot down in the area—but no one told us at the time. The stories I heard later were honestly terrifying. It’s scary how fragile safety can be

Puzzled-Noise-

Why no one's holding the government accountable??? Everyone's using this to justify their hatred for communal harmony. This is NOT a political issue, this is a NATIONAL ISSUE and must be treated as such. This is a threat to our security. Time to put aside political beliefs and face this crisis as a nation.

boomboombakdan

Glad you are okay my guy. Take some rest and have a breather, people take out their time for their vacations only to suffer at times like these. Kudos to the locals for handling it calmly but tourism is gonna cripple no matter what. 

If tourists are not safe, same can be extended to the locals. Did things even changed over the years?

Ligma_Sugmi

I have been saying this since yesterday, how the hell does something like this happen in such a popular and crowded tourist spot with no security presence whatsoever? Total intelligence and security failure. This isn’t some hidden trail in the mountains, it’s a major tourist hub. The terrorists managed to get in, attack and murder civilians, cause this much damage and escape without being intercepted. I mean, wtf!!! How were there no alerts, no officers, nothing? 


Absolute shame on those responsible for keeping the area safe. This is not just a lapse, it's negligence. 


There have been people saying stuff like “they only have to get lucky once” to cover up the intelligence failure of the government  but it's the government’s job to make sure they never get that chance. It’s their job to stop these “one-time” wins before they happen, especially in high-risk areas like this. If we keep brushing off every failure with “they only have to win once,” we’re basically saying we should just accept this as normal. That’s not acceptable.


And huge respect to the locals who stepped up. They probably saved dozens of lives just by keeping everyone calm and getting people out.

Mayor_McCheese7

I was curious about this - This isn't something that happened over seconds or minutes, why was the response time so poor? In such a high-tension area, so much chest thumping done daily about our military, but how come it took so long for a response?

Advanced_Tangelo

But i'd still say Sonmarg still had better army presence than the " mini Switzerland ". Pehelgam also has apt army presence but the " mini Switzerland " is completely isolated. No vehicle can go there, you need to go there via horse, atv or helicopter. They planned and attacked the position that is tough to reach with little to no security. Compared to that Sonmarg for the most part has security at every tourist location.

isthisneeded29

I was there a month back, there’s zero security at the scenic places. My heart goes for the families who lost their loved ones. The heart aches for Kashmiri’s as well, they were all kind and lovely to us. My driver there said, “ab idhar pathar koi nahi utha ta.” 
Their economy who’s heavily dependent on tourism will definitely take some hit. 
My father, an army veteran, was afraid when I told him I’m going to Pahalgam (I was not aware then that it comes in Anantnag or in Pulwama district both of which are terrorist prone areas). He explicitly asked me not to tell anyone that I’m a son of an army personnel or even get involved in political discussions. Now I know why. 
For the first time I a 32 year old is realising that I’m not safe in a particular territory of my own country. 
The heart feels sorry for the lost soles, the heart aches because I’m helpless and can’t do anything, it’s also filled with rage because people like you and me will forget what has happened, log fir wahi language and caste ka mudda bana lenge, but the heart demands - ankh k badle ankh. 
Kill all those terrorists, kill all who were involved whether they are here in India or anywhere else. 

We want justice and not condolences. 💐.

PlumForsaken4124

I was in Kashmir in February last year and what you said is true about lack of security. 

Srinagar is very heavily guarded and checks happen so often. 
But when you go out of Srinagar, you are on your own. 
I mean, it’s a valley and there are millions of dark spots. 

Most of the locals are good and welcoming and they are part of the typical tourist industry.
But you can tell that none of them want to belong to India or be identified as Indians. They hate us.

Srihari_stan

I had been to Palagham couple of years ago. My father was a former central govt employee in Ministry of home affairs. My understanding is army/CISF are deployed at strategic locations. Others are often at checkpoints. It’s not humanly possible to cover all of Kashmir. Rmbr Kashmiri’s are already fed up of army all over the town. From what I sense it’s a failure on the part of intelligence.

srinivazzi

I don't get what you are saying completely. Maybe my comprehension is bad.
But Two things are true. 
1. Terrorists are the main culprit here and not a religion or a region.
2. Intelligence of Indian government they so much boast about failed.

Also I have been to kashmir and all it's famous places atleast twice in last two years and number of security personnel has never been an issue. Our driver who is a kashmiri, always almost gets irritated while taking us to these places due to extra convoys and military halts that causes inconvenience to local but I am not faulting army here as they have their protocols.

So I don't get your point about less security. As per my experience there is ample security in all tourist places and on main roads. You can't have soldier on every door and that is something locals detest even more and I can comprehend why.
Yes baisaran valley is an exception where there is no security and there wasnt any even when i visited. and that is where the intelligence comes into play and where failure happened. There are soldiers in betab valley ,aaru valley, and other major attractions in pahalgam always.

Also all the kashmiris in these tourist area are tourism dependent and are truthful people. So no surprise they helped.

dragonsaredead

But the majority of our population doesn't care about facts. They are using this as an excuse to bring out their hidden venom and hatred. They deliberately combine the sample with the ensemble (aka composition fallacy) to stereotype a whole religious group. This country is doomed.

Fooled-by-Randomness

Yeah, it’s a massive security failure—no denying that. And let’s be real, Indian intel feels like it’s running on fumes right now. Modi can’t keep dodging accountability forever.

But hold up—what ‘propaganda’ are you talking about exactly? Why so scared to call it what it is? This was clearly a religion-driven terrorist act. You really think those guys pulled this off without local backup?

Even the victims’ families are saying it loud and clear—the terrorists were checking names, asking religious questions, doing identity filtering.

So again, what exactly is the ‘propaganda’ here? Sounds more like denial, or worse, deliberate deflection

Serious-Finger4635

when u see the first thing the ruling party does is ghiblify a tragic image of a person mourning over the dead body of their spouse to propagate communal trash you immediately know all the politicians in this country care about is how to retain their seat for another 5 years. There is no value of human lives, no accountability,  only trashy politics. The darkest part of this whole shitshow is that sufficient brain dead people exist in this country to feed into this trash and keep the politicians afloat.

Nirbhik

Thanks for sharing your story! Hope everyone is able to get through the tough times and perpetrators are brought to justice.

ThickStuff7459

If the things being said about “they checked my husband’s penis to make sure he wasn’t a Muslim, and then shot him” are true, the outrage is valid. Calling it propaganda is utter bullshit because now every Hindu is unsafe not because of where they come from or who they are but just because they are Hindus. If you say this is propaganda, then all the bad things about Israel being said literally everywhere are also propaganda. Killing because of difference in identity without any other motive has to be the scariest form of killing. It comes from an ideology of one person being superior than other just because they come from a different faith. You should be scared.

CrossSpy

"What’s circulating online is mostly propaganda" -&gt; What part? That they didn't ask for religion? So you have more idea than the actual victims?

"And the youth—how can they resist when all they want is to stay alive and support their families? These locals aren’t even seeing basic development. They're stuck in the cycle, not because they support it, but because survival leaves them no choice" -&gt; All Indians should get out of this saviour complex - "If only we did more development, things like this would not happen". Every new govt that comes in at Centre thinks the same and then fails. This is not true. There is a large majority that supports terrorism. It is not even a minority. How do I know - I belong to the place. I have suffered through this. So please take out this idealist view point of a region starved for development. It is a religious issue. Sitting in your comfy homes - it is very easy for you to comment. Don't teach us.   
  
They support it. They cover for it. Doesn't mean that they will not help tourists or there aren't good people who will go out of the way to help someone in need. But an overwhelming majority will not go against their own if it comes to that. There will be posturing. There will be performative declarations. But the bottom line is that this is Islamic terrorism. It has overwhelming support in Kashmir.

chuck_norris08

Jammu is support to be high secure zone, and intelligence should've seen this coming I really don't in what's happening here.

Narrow-Finding-2547

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The Home Ministry has been very complacent about matters of national security.

A_Certain_Monk

It was a terrorist attack. Its time for the nation to unite. But people here are going on and on about indian government. Its NOT a political issue. Stop fighting amongst ourselves. 

Affectionate_Arm3371

This is not a case of Hindu-Muslim, this is a case of absolute failure of our information agencies. They were clueless about such a big attack. What are they even doing? Secret services for no reason. No accountability of local administration? 

Media not highlighting such a big failure from our administration.

Aarvy271

Exactly it's baffling and surprising to have zero security in that region.

It's a total failure and disaster of govt and intelligence,it seems like they are waiting for something like this.

tera_chachu

TheStormStryker

So what we should do now? 
We all know that locals kind of have some perticular leaning and govt after govts have failed to prune those leaning and people across the borders give more fuel to those.

And locals were helpful? As many terrorists come from across the border almost same or may be more numbers come from locals.(acc to previous history)

Not condoning any mistakes of the govt. They are most responsible.(failure of intelligence and many important points that you yourself have mentioned)

But here they are not attacking some govt institution? It’s class of people (a particular at that one) Hindu Tourists.

Massive_Technician98

What happened in Pahalgam is tragic and terrifying, no doubt. But I’m not sure what this post is really getting at.

If there was no police presence or emergency support, that’s squarely on the J&amp;K administration. Law and order is a state subject. And let’s address the obvious double standard: you can’t demand demilitarization to make Kashmir feel less "occupied," then blame the army for not being around when violence happens. That’s pure hypocrisy.

Yes, intelligence may have failed here, but no intelligence system is error-proof. Pretending otherwise is naive. For every attack that slips through, hundreds are stopped silently, especially in J&amp;K, where threats come from both local networks and cross-border support.

And this part. “hold accountable the ones who create conditions where terror thrives”. what does that even mean? Are you seriously saying Indian authorities are to blame, not the terrorists who actually committed the attack? That’s not just unfair, it’s dangerous reasoning.

The locals stepped up, and that’s admirable. Even though I said earlier that the J&amp;K admin is responsible for law and order, security, and development take time, especially in a region as sensitive and complex as this. This isn’t negligence. It’s a result of walking a tightrope in a conflict-sensitive region.

Edit: Some commenters have mentioned that since J&amp;K is a UT, law and order falls under the centre. That is true, but not directly. Law and Order in UTs is overseen by a Lt. Gen, who is appointed by the President. In this case, that would be Lt. Gen Manoj Sinha. Additionally, as I stated in the last part of my response above, it is not entirely fair to place all the blame on the J&amp;K admin either, as this region is conflict-sensitive. Having said that, that's not my main contention with the OP. Not sure why only this part is being focused on. Weird.

jittarao

This govt is indulging in cost-cutting in every domain, including defense. Yesterday Col. Bakshi rebuked this govt policy of stopping proper recruitment in army post covid and then we have this shit-show called 'Agniveer' as if you are going to lay down their life for a salary which is equivalent to a stipend.

Almondsniffer40

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Glad you and your family are safe, OP. I can't comment on the security but one thing I can agree with you is how hospitable locals are, especially towards tourists. If you think about it, they are the ones who are suffering the most.

LeatherAndChai

Btw, the place where this happened is way up. It's baisaran valley. I went exact same place last year.

There are 2 ways to go up. Either by pony rides or just trek. Pony ride might take 2-3 hours. Normal trek takes 2 hours.

Me and my brother trekked up 2 hours. So it was that up.

I might not go back again ever in Kashmir.

tejas3732

The fact such war prone areas should have high security and restricted for tourists.

JustARandomGirl4

Good god i cant even fathom the scars the people there must have

tarundham

 What propaganda are you talking about? People were being shot for being non Muslims. This is just sad that such posts are allowed here. Idk how you guys can turn the narratives.

ProfessionalMovie759

no security?? wtf!!! failure of system and politicians not taking any sort of accountability for this failure.

KramerDwight

Why aren't Amit Shah and Ajit Doval resigning. This is a serious lapse in security. If Me or you fuck up big time in our jobs we'd be promptly fired. Why do ministers get job security inspite of their absolute incompetency. This is absolute BS. AMIT SHAH SHOULD RESIGN OR BE FIRED.

drick121

My father was in Pahalgam the exact same day of the incident. Luckily he didn’t go to Baisaran because it needs a trek/horse ride and he is 66 years old. He is fond of travelling - he wanted to visit Kashmir again for the tulip season. 

Army presence has been reduced significantly in Kashmir over the last few years. Those who are actively serving, can confirm that they were expecting an attack to happen sooner rather than later. 

They have taken strong measures against Pakistan by abetting the Indus water treaty. I see a lot of folks condemning the attacks. The locals will suffer the most - their economy will take a massive hit.  

Imagine living in a country where you can’t even travel safely. If you do star gazing at night, you are r*ped. If you set up a tent in a forest, you are r*ped and murdered. Instead of going to enjoy nature, you go to a tourist spot with 5k people within 5 kms, you are shot dead. Go to a beach state, and the cab union will rip you off. No need to imagine - it is everyone’s reality in India. 

Tourism in India is a joke - it is minimal value for money, unsafe and underwhelming. The whole trek to Baisaran is risky and dangerous. In other countries, there are proper trek paths. Above all, in which country do you demand for army to be present in a tourist spot? 

If you try to get away from the crowd, you will likely die. If you stay in the crowd, you carry the risk of dying in a stampede. The amount of filth we leave in tourist spots is nauseating. We scream at each other and on phones in the presence of others, as if that is our right. 

When you vote the next time, think of all this instead of silly things like Kannada vs Hindi. The ones protecting you at the border are doing it irrespective of the language that you speak. Most people don’t realise it, and that is why we are where we are. 

We vote for people who are just like us, and hence we get the governance that we deserve.

polite_scrawler

Damn bringing out the big guns to change the narrative and propaganda.

Next step:
It was all peaceful.

Brahmin terrorists came and killed Dalits  after checking caste certificates .

Edit:
Boohoo. Youth needs development…. storyline

Can you image what would have happened if Osama bin Laden was educated?

sardinoboy

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Pahalgam

Key_Wall9244

So, asking for religion &amp; selectively murdering of everyone except 1 faith, looking at penis to check for circumcision, asking to recite islamic verse &amp; then killing anyone not following these is propaganda? 



Blame government, 100%, this was an intelligence failure, but don't deny the facts that this was a religiously targetted massacre.

Hrit33

You really such a big attack happened without the help of locals ?


Out of the attackers 2 were locals as well !!


Many good Kashmiris maybe there but don't forget the terrorist and we need to be strict with them .


Many people have started saying this was an Inside job and bjp did it and God knows what goes in there mind . 


Do you guys have shame or not ? 

InterestingEngine305

The problem is secular people who are not accepting that innocents were killed because they were Hindu. It's not about communal hatred. My army friend's friend got killed just because he was Hindu so yes there is religious angle. I understand local supported the tourists but as per Army(you can check statement) this kind of attack is not possible without local support. Just once keep your emotions side, forget govt and just ask this question do they deserve to be killed just because they were Hindu?
There is no shame denying the fact that all these terrorists came to show other religions what they are. Same thing they did with Kashmiri pandits and if people really worried about this communal tension lets ask majority muslim people to change their society first.

nikita1712

BUT - you're saying the terrorists and the party that funds terrorism is not to be blamed? You think these barbarians wouldn't strike if there was security?

Sanjanadash7

And we’re supposed to trust this Reddit post. How is this not propaganda?

gottic

PS Thank you for this field report from beautiful Kashmir... horrible drama !

But looks  like this was..allowed to happen ?!? Typical pattern during such attacks.

Namaste, greetings from  Polska to Indian people.

RayonsVert

If you put more military boots on the ground people cry about why so many, the most militarised zone in the world, locals living in fear etc. And now that there is a terrorist attack you want security every 2 metres from you.

calvinspiff

WhatsApp groups are already flooded with omar abdullah is CM and security was his job. Govt job was to safeguard LOC. Internal security is with CM. And ppl are believing that.

Society groups are considering denying entry for any sort of labour work for a particular community going forward. Those who wanted this gap to be created were successful. Plan is working.

Accomplished_Pen_633

We are short of 200,000 ( 2 Lakh) full time soldiers in our nation, in the name of budget cuts. Government has no money to protect the nation. What do you expect.

Interesting_One_2899

Explain me this..If there's no hate against Muslim religion, then why is all the violence in the entire world is spread by one specific community. 

Have you ever noticed any Hindu/Sikh/Christian community going to a different country and spreading terror over there?

No_Raise_7133

Op at least post some photos or tickets that you are actually there ? Who knows what you say is true .

FitApplication8277

I mean with the all the security. Terror attacks happen. It's just we minimize the chances of them. However people also don't want strict military in the zone to protect people and say that Kashmir is a UT and don't make it a war zone. All the troops that we place there get backlash. The fight with terrorist we do get backlash just like the counter terrorism efforts after pulwama attacks.

csureja

You mind uploading some pictures from your trip? You can blur out your face if you'd like but something more than just your word to actually prove you were there. Although I doubt anyone would be enough of a lowlife to lie and gain karma from something as serious as this, you can never be sure in today's world. Just proof you were there would increase the credibility of your post so much it would really help.

scoutvgai7

is this the first time multiple tourists within Srinagar (not amarnath yatra) have been targeted? Because as far as I remember, the narrative has been that you are welcome to visit kashmir but not settle here? Does this attack change that now

hufflepuffledo

Ppl showed too much trust with what the govt told them, j&amp;k is safe . While we see the reality of the situation. No accountability and no consequences to terrorists, they just left with no back tracking.

Jeenekhainchardin

We will never be a great country if we're so obsessed with religious bullshit.

Avrg_Internet_Enjoyr

Idk , why you wanted army everywhere. They can't have army personals on each hill. They should have has a better Intel though about the attack.

saurabh8448

Security was never presnet everywhere in Kashmir. Last year travelled and explored  Kashmir with locals   . What do you expect army to stand guard every tourist destination. Even in Srinagar security is not present everywhere.  To commit this they had done proper Reece , they knew about response time , thats why it was not shootout but point black execution . 

Whats propaganda circulating in Media , thats not true to this attack ?

BihariJones

Great-Illustrator-81

makes me think this was part of something big. the way it happened and no prescence of security was pretty sus

Interesting-Neat4429

I was in Sonmarg around the same time. 

I did not see a single officer after the tunnel ended. If it were to happen there, the death count could have reached triple digits.

First time in Kashmir, but mostly not visiting again. Locals are helpful and welcoming but risk of losing life is a bigger threat.

SurrealNami

This post seems propaganda to me completely

taruntya9i

Even if there was no security...what they did was terrorism...they killed innocent people...and yet people like you are trying to shift the focus from attack to governments fault...stop blaming the government for everything and punish the ones who did this, who helped them and who are supporting them

Specialist-Bar3020

OP is right. I have also been to Pahalgam, Gulmarg and Doodhpathri some time back and there is no security personnel there, only locals. And yes maybe you can find some security in Gulmarg because army has some camp there but when we went towards Botapathri from where border for PoK was visible, there was no security in sight.

Hanging_out07

Ban all muslims in jammu to somemother places in india

Realistic_baddyyy

&gt;The local community, especially the pony and cab union members, were incredibly welcoming. They got the news first and didn't get us all panicked , lying that there's been a landslide, they took us back to our hotels 

Why lie? They should have told you the truth. 

RGV_KJ

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shru-san

I had booked tickets to kashmir for May 3rd week with my family, just cancelled them. 😔

tzobe

First off, glad that your ok OP. 

SECOND, I still understand why attack the tourists, like the attack happened not in borders, so they easily infiltrate majority of Kashmir in weeks if not in days, so why did they only wait, only to kill tourists, I mean since they breached this much, how come no locals have been attacked.

darkknight2817

Last year when I visited only forces you see is till the Anantnag district.. no forces were there in Pahalgham or gulmarg

Positive_Gur_968

thatssocute04

They should train and arm the local Kashmiri people to protect the tourists.

wiifii111

Yeah, i agree. That place is called mini switzerland. Visited last year in may. No security as there is steep climb with horse to get place so security is null. No officers visited.in vedio as you already have seen, body is lying at gate. Till that gate, horses remain outside and people just visit that place. And when you return towards gate when you move outside the gate, the horse keeper will fight themselves to get you. They can even kill u, that is no big points as who is there to help u. Public will obviously run when this happens and police or army will take atleast 30 to 40 min to get there unless they have helicopter. So be aware people. We were lucky and now have made promise to not visit there in such alone places.

igoterror

&gt; The truth is, there was no visible security in areas packed with tourists. Not a single officer in sight—just locals. 

Let's be clear that expectation is there only because this is Kashmir with past incidents. For most other states, this is normal. 

You really can't be swinging in extremes, where you  have army everywhere and then no one, the administration is really at fault for not having some level of security as Kashmir is still volatile, not completely peaceful.

dontknow_anything

I think we have recently deployed a major chunk of force to the Bangladesh border recently, It seems like this gave them the opportunity to strike.

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Well put. India is playing Israel. Today I realized the photo of couple used in their media is also taken from a photo off Facebook from past and the couple is now requesting to take it down.

They are full of lies, wether they ordered this attack or not, their use for this attack is totally disgusting.

Also one Indian army that died trying to fight rebel was a Muslim. The kashmiri boy who died was also Muslim. Yet their media is keeping that away from people and constantly pushing for Kashmiri bad, Muslims bad narrative along with it's all Pakistan's fault.

VapeyMoron

You couldn’t have said it better. Modi wants to be like Nethanyahu now doesn’t he. He forgets there is loads of evidence which will show what’s been manipulated and what hasn’t on any propaganda videos that people are faking.
The days of blaming Pakistan without any credible evidence have gone thankfully. Pakistan Zindabad! Pakistan zindabad 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰

Ok-Inspector-4645

loveisascam_

I have been seeing videos of indians attacking muslims after this incident. I mean seriously? Wtf is wrong with them.

desolatoration

Man, this whole thing is just wild. Every time there's an attack—*boom*, without missing a beat, India’s media and politicians go straight to “blame Pakistan,” like it's some kind of reflex. No investigations, no waiting for facts, just vibes and headlines. It’s like they’ve turned tragedy into a political script: stir nationalism, distract from domestic chaos, and keep that election machine running. And now with this Pahalgam incident, it’s the same playbook again—but this time, the script's falling apart *in real time*. Viral videos showing people who were supposedly “killed” now speaking on camera? Bro, how do you spin that?

The kicker? That whole “terrorists asked who’s Muslim” narrative? Pure media fantasy. No eyewitness confirmed it. Just a lazy, dangerous way to spark communal tension. It’s not just dishonest—it’s reckless. And when some Indian journos start calling this “India’s October 7th”? That’s not just irresponsible—it’s straight-up suicidal. Gaza didn’t have nukes. Pakistan does. This ain’t some sandbox war zone—you mess with Pakistan, you’re rolling the dice with regional stability.

Let’s also not forget: Kashmir isn’t some disputed property on a Monopoly board—it’s a people under siege. Curfews, lockdowns, extrajudicial killings, media blackouts... this ain’t terrorism, this is colonial resistance. And if India wants to keep playing victim while occupying an entire region, then that gaslighting needs to be called out *loud and clear*. Oh, and before pointing fingers, maybe look around the neighborhood—China, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan. If everyone’s got beef with you, maybe it’s not them. Maybe it’s *you*.

Pakistan’s done with being the scapegoat. No more false flags. No more silence. This ain't 2001. Receipts exist. People are awake. And the world’s watching.

tormenturator

I am an Indian, and I am here only to correct you

&gt;Let’s be very clear: This entire story reeks of another false flag operation just like the Parliament attack in 2001, the Samjhauta Express, and Pulwama 2019. All used to stir nationalism, win elections, suppress Kashmiris, and demonize Pakistan.

The **2001 Indian Parliament attack** was a [terrorist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India) attack on the [Parliament of India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_India) in [New Delhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Delhi), [India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India) on 13 December 2001. The attack was carried out by five [Jaish-e-Mohammed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish-e-Mohammed) terrorists. If you don't know, fyi, Jaish-e-Mohammad is a pakistani terror outfit.  
The 2019 Pulwama attack occurred on 14 February 2019, when a convoy of vehicles carrying Indian security personnel on the Jammu–Srinagar National Highway was attacked by a vehicle-borne suicide bomber at Lethapora in the Pulwama district of the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir. The attack killed 40 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF)\[a\] personnel as well as the perpetrator — Adil Ahmad Dar— who was a local Kashmiri youth from the Pulwama district.\[5\]\[6\] The responsibility for the attack was claimed by the Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist\[7\] group, Jaish-e-Mohammed.\[8\] Again, Jaish-e-Mohammad is a pakistani terrorist group

&gt;No eyewitness said the terrorists asked “who is Muslim and who is not.” That line was added later deliberately by India’s media to create a communal, Islamophobic frenzy.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/DIwRlrPz1Rd/](https://www.instagram.com/p/DIwRlrPz1Rd/) Go watch it, the victim's wife clearly said they asked their religion then shot

&gt;That humiliation is archived in history forever.

That's true, [humiliation of 93k solider surrender ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_Instrument_of_Surrender)

&gt;Let’s stop pretending: This isn’t about terrorism. This is about optics, elections, and distraction from internal chaos. This is about silencing Kashmir. This is about demonizing Muslims. This is about manipulating grief for political gain.

This is about terrorism, 26 innocent people lost their lives, speaking against terrorism and its causes is not demonizing muslims nor is being used for elections, All the leaders of the opposition including AIMM leader Owasi who is a prominent muslim leader here in India has spoken against it.

This was my voice as an Indian on a topic relating to India in your subreddit, consider it as a representation not offensive.

CrazyDrax

I disagree on some points. While armed resistance and freedom fighters do exist, the resistance was against the Indian army, not against tourists. Killing innocents is terrorism anywhere. And this was indeed an act of terror.

When I first heard about the news and that terrorists had asked for identification of being Muslim or Hindu before shooting. My reaction wasn’t that this seems to be a made up lie by Indian media . Only because that we’ve seen stuff like checking CNIC’s before shooting in Pakistan.

It used to happen quite regularly back when the Taliban had control over Swat region. Busses would be stopped and people who were deemed Shia , with Shia sounding names would be shot.

Similarly, this happen’s in Balochistan as well, where terrorists would stop and check ID’s to see if their person was Punjabi or not.

I’m actually super surprised by the response of our leaders. For not condemning the attack, calling this a freedom fighter act and letting the situation escalate. We should have made a stern denouncement of our involvement, condemned the attack and given India and push back for always pointing at us without evidence to rile up domestic politics. 

We’re now stuck in a retaliation spiral. The Indus water treaty being annulled for us, is a declaration of war. If acted upon, I don’t see a situation where it doesn’t lead to an all out war. We will have no choice but to fight for our water.

kalakawa

The way that Indian progressives are also parroting Modi propaganda is horrifying. Sab ke sab bike hue hein. This has always been about Kashmir being occupied, not about religion at all. But again, religion is a convenient tool to divide.

zeynabhereee

Well there are videos of the victims mentioning that they were asked if they were muslims. And killing the others after checking the identity.

greekgod_indisguise

OkWarthog6382

Honestly, I don’t care how bad Pakistan gets: Quaid-e-Azam’s vision was spot on. If we were integrated in India, they would 100% persecute us and not give us a place to call home. 

Thank god for Pakistan (even with its faults).

Ornery_Particular845

'No eyewitness said the terrorists asked “who is Muslim and who is not.” That line was added later deliberately by India’s media to create a communal, Islamophobic frenzy.'  


 Cmon man dont stoop this low atleast.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1388T614k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1388T614k)  \-Son of the martyred

[https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/1k55ja2/terrorist\_shot\_tourist\_in\_pahalgam\_jammu\_kashmir/](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/1k55ja2/terrorist_shot_tourist_in_pahalgam_jammu_kashmir/)  \- Video from just minutes after the attack

Top-Cheesecake-852

about being mindful of neighbouring nations, please also be mindful of western and chinese influences yourself. self preservation is justified but saying the entire nation is at fault because of these policies is just stupid

cabhinav

this is exactly it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

ultra_phoenix

I think we also need to realize that we do have terrorists and our intelligence is involved in incidents that happen in India. Let’s stop assuming that every attack in India is a false flag and that Pakistan is innocent. The public is but let’s not forget that our government and army are sold and would do anything for money.

Additional_Sail7945

I think they are well aware of Pakistan having nukes and the capacity to defend itself. They’d be dumb af to go towards that route, or try to land grab or something, genocide seems not even realistically possible.
Plus a war between India and Pakistan, is gonna be more severe than the Russian vs Ukraine war, as you mentioned they both have nukes.

My perspective is, it’s not us who are the target, yes demonizing and blaming Pakistan gets them their votes and lollipop and the Indians as intellectual as they pretend to be, are far more brainwashed in general, even more than Zios and rednecks. 
The target is their Muslim population. And in specific the Kashmiri Muslims. That’s my opinion but if anyone who is more educated in this topic feel free to correct me

tiwanaldo5

What about asim muneer speech on hindus, and india is waiting from 75 years for facts

HelpfulParamedic2552

It's easy to ble Pakistan because Pakistan harbors terrorism, trains terrorist militia who then go and attack India, sometimes they cause trouble within their own country.

As a Pakistani it might be hard to digest it but your state is a terrorist harboring and training state.  You have problems with all of your neighbors too, Afghanistan, Iran and India all of them accuse you of terrorism in their country.

Osama bin laden was given sanctuary in your country.

If you ask me Pakistan shouldn't exist as a country it makes no sense .

thebhusanker

As an Indian I will just call it your perspective but one thing is those terrorist certainly asked the victims about their religion most of the victim family members have said it and confirmed it.

FewCryptographer3357

False narrative no. That's just foolish. It's not the ummahs responsibility to take account for every attack for a Muslim. But to pretend they weren't Muslim at all is just pointless.

That being said, clearly there are people waiting to use any excuse against Pakistan. UK right wing parties are celebrating India taking any sort of action.

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A deadly attack in Pahalgam, Kashmir, targeting Indian tourists has escalated tensions between India and Pakistan. This attack resulted in the deaths of 26 tourists. India and Pakistan have implemented retaliatory measures, including the suspension of trade and the termination of a crucial water-sharing treaty. The U.S. and international community are urging calm.

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